Sunday, December 28, 2008
"Our generation is the generation that's going to change things!"
The title is a direct quote from someone at the motley crew at Shawn's bonfire last night. In attendance were artists, actors, musicians, Shawn's roomates from Cairo, econ/political science students, a Harvard student, and a soldier just back from his first tour of duty in Afghanistan. All connected by that oh-so-tenuous thread that is High School.
"Our generation is the generation that's going to change things!" said one of them. There was a drunken debate between two white guys (of course) on libertarianism versus socialism (which seemed to mostly mean privatized medicine to the guy). Lots of talk about the Middle East, and lots of bad Arabic spoken (I countered by talking in Spanish to the guy from Guatemala who was the only other one in conversation group who didn't speak Arabic to some extent). Challenged Clare to define "science", which she struggled with. Would I have done much better? Atheists especially place tremendous value in "Science" (capital 'S') without even understanding what it is. "It gives answers that are true" is not a definition. But I feel even science students who I know might be challenged to really answer the question--there is a whole course on it this year, which sadly conflicts with SD this semester or I might have taken it. Also had a thought last night: while it's a running joke that theatre at St Andrews is all arts students, there are biologists, psychologists, geoscientists, and management students I know who do stuff. My question is, where are the physicists, chemists, and mathematicians (and econ and computer scientists, come to that)? And, of course, the medics...but I'm more interested in the hard/soft science split.
"Our generation is the generation that's going to change things!" I felt so fucking cynical. I'm not sure why Shawn sees me as political, I think it's just that every time someone comes up with a proposition I question it from every practical angle I can think of to see if they've really thought it out. There was a guy in Jordan who annoyed me a little bit because he "tested" people to see if they could really speak the languages they said they could and had the cultural knowledge they claimed to. But I suppose I do the same when people make an ideological statement.
Why *should* it be our generation? Or, assuming that change does happen, wouldn't it be fair to say that *every* generation is *a* generation that changes things? Vietnam, civil rights, the Cold War generally, etc. What makes green issues and US (ex?) hegemony so different or special? Wanting change is great {Onion headline during the Obama campaign: Black Man Asks for Change} but I think there is a danger in overvaluing one's significance, even if that danger is just in coming off as a douche.
So that's a lot of word vomit....Christmas was good, seeing people is good, life is pretty good.
"Our generation is the generation that's going to change things!" said one of them. There was a drunken debate between two white guys (of course) on libertarianism versus socialism (which seemed to mostly mean privatized medicine to the guy). Lots of talk about the Middle East, and lots of bad Arabic spoken (I countered by talking in Spanish to the guy from Guatemala who was the only other one in conversation group who didn't speak Arabic to some extent). Challenged Clare to define "science", which she struggled with. Would I have done much better? Atheists especially place tremendous value in "Science" (capital 'S') without even understanding what it is. "It gives answers that are true" is not a definition. But I feel even science students who I know might be challenged to really answer the question--there is a whole course on it this year, which sadly conflicts with SD this semester or I might have taken it. Also had a thought last night: while it's a running joke that theatre at St Andrews is all arts students, there are biologists, psychologists, geoscientists, and management students I know who do stuff. My question is, where are the physicists, chemists, and mathematicians (and econ and computer scientists, come to that)? And, of course, the medics...but I'm more interested in the hard/soft science split.
"Our generation is the generation that's going to change things!" I felt so fucking cynical. I'm not sure why Shawn sees me as political, I think it's just that every time someone comes up with a proposition I question it from every practical angle I can think of to see if they've really thought it out. There was a guy in Jordan who annoyed me a little bit because he "tested" people to see if they could really speak the languages they said they could and had the cultural knowledge they claimed to. But I suppose I do the same when people make an ideological statement.
Why *should* it be our generation? Or, assuming that change does happen, wouldn't it be fair to say that *every* generation is *a* generation that changes things? Vietnam, civil rights, the Cold War generally, etc. What makes green issues and US (ex?) hegemony so different or special? Wanting change is great {Onion headline during the Obama campaign: Black Man Asks for Change} but I think there is a danger in overvaluing one's significance, even if that danger is just in coming off as a douche.
So that's a lot of word vomit....Christmas was good, seeing people is good, life is pretty good.
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3 comments:
hey man,its all good. even your fucking cynicism.
After reading this, I realize that nothing has or is going to change. I stood around bonfires having the EXACT same conversations 30 years ago.
What I would like to see is an end to identity politics of all sorts. And by that, I mean something that would be truly liberating that starts with, "So what....". So what if the guys you were talking to were "white" guys. So what if the German Prime Minister is a woman. So what if the Australian Olympic Diving Gold Medal champion is a homosexual. So what if the American President is half-African.
BFD.
I have found the counter-cultures to be just as addicted to catagorizing and sterotyping as Mainstream culture
What if we just dropped the whole silly sociological project and dealt with each other as individuals.
Racialisms, ethnic fetishisms, endless class sterotyping, nationalisms, sexual orientation obsessions, differences in religious ideology - I'd like to see them all become just "not important" - not the criteria by which we judge, catagorize and think about each other.
But, I'll betcha dollars to donuts THAT is not going to happen.
Until that occurs, Brian, I think that your generation is going to be JUST LIKE MINE....:-)
nuke baby whales for jesus!!
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